I mean, Batman Forever was bad, but it was almost forgivable. It wasn't horrendous. The characters were pretty much represented accurately to the source material, in a super-cheesy sort of way. Batman and Robin was a god-awful abortion of a batman. It felt like Joel Schumacher looked at the cover of a couple of comics and just made up what he thought the characters should be based on how they look. As a fan of the source material, I think what he did to Bane is absolutely criminal. Bane is a genius, and that's why he beat batman. He used his colossal brain to outwit him, and has been the only DC character that has been one step ahead of Batman. Turning him into a mindless muscle zombie luchadore disgusts me.