VaultBot
I'm Vintage's pet bot, I can't reply to PMs/posts.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:10 AM - TimeCrush: Holy shit I think we are ready
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:10 AM - VaultBot: rgr, i upgraded roll20 to a phone it's a wonder you have matched interlaced source to interlaced output
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:10 AM - TimeCrush: Well, I'm ready
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM - Reechard: I'm about 3/4 done with my dude... kinda got Lava's base concept worked out.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 AM - TimeCrush: Your friend started?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:02 AM - Reechard: I'm trying to get him into roll20 so you can give him his character sheet, etc.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 AM - TimeCrush: I'm putting on finishing touches with music and sounds
Jul 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM - TimeCrush: Bring your big boy fighting pants
Jul 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM - TimeCrush: Apparently I like encounters
Jul 20, 2018 at 5:08 PM - VintagePC: you can send invites for me to listen in to my username @vaultf4.com
Jul 20, 2018 at 7:51 PM - Reechard: it's ok TC I predict we'll get through *maybe* one encounter total on Tuesday.
Jul 20, 2018 at 7:51 PM - Reechard: getting people who have never played acclimated is gonna be fun.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:09 PM - Statboy: do we know what the 5th person is doing?
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:09 PM - Statboy: we got Ranger/Paladin/Oracle/Wizard so far?
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:16 PM - Statboy: For anybody interested, the research part of the hospital I work for cured cancer in mice.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:16 PM - Statboy: http://www.wowt.com/content/news/UNMC-scientists-cure-cancer-in-mice-488322711.html
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - Reechard: ho damn that's awesome
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - VaultBot: hey guys- good chance i won't be able to do with #scan lines
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - Reechard: I told the 5th to go fighty smacky, so probably either barbarian or fighter.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Statboy: looks like a good mix
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Reechard: yerp
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Reechard: I took enough non-healing stuff that I should be able to beat some ass a tiny bit too.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:49 PM - VintagePC: sadly there will be little motivation from the pharma industry to make that common. Why cure someone if you can keep selling them drugs the rest of their lives?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:01 PM - Statboy: who says pharma has anything to say? doctors prescribe drugs not pharmaceutical companies. It's easier for docs to do what's best for the patient, because they have to look the patient in the eye
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:07 PM - VintagePC: they have high-priced lawyers, deep pockets for marketing, and sales reps that convince doctors to push their meds. The latter two of which are contributing factors in the current "opioid crisis"
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - VintagePC: so while they may not have much to say directly at the front... you can damn well bet they will "say" a lot more behind the scenes
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - VintagePC: Just look at the shit they pull to keep generics off the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - Statboy: you cannot convince me that anybody would stand in the way of the cure for cancer, people aren't that evil
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM - Statboy: this isn't something they would have control of behind the scenes either. Also drug companies make money by curing people, not making them worse. You've been watching to much Hollywood
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM - VintagePC: no, they make money by continuing to sell people drugs, not by curing them
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM - VintagePC: pharma is a giant, stinking cesspool that only cares about their bottom line.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM - VintagePC: while not pharma, quick taste of a similar situation in the medical industry
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM - VintagePC:
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM - VintagePC: why cure someone with a transplant if you can convince them to stay on dialysis the rest of their lives?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - Statboy: Pharmaceutical doesn't make money once a drugs is out long enough to have generic brands made. Usually 1-5 years. Pharma makes money by developing new drugs and charging %500 of what it cost to make
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - VintagePC: except they will pull shit to keep generics off the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - Statboy: how?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:14 PM - VintagePC: so in reality, their most profitable drugs will not see a generic for far longer than that
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:14 PM - Statboy: legally they can't, and historically they havn't\
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:15 PM - VintagePC: there are loopholes like changing the formulation slightly or selling it as a treatment for a different condition that have essentially the same effect as extending their patent exclusivity
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - Statboy: alright, have you seen this happen even once? In the last 17 years that I've been healthcare I haven't
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - Statboy: changing the formula wouldn't alter the timeline of the original going to generic either
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - VintagePC: I will attempt to find my source on that again
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM - Statboy: I've seen making minor improvements to keep the name brand more effective in order to drive prices up
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM - Statboy: but none of this has ever prevented a drug from going to market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:19 PM - Statboy: which is the key, so long as the drug hits the market it'll be available. Also drugs and treatments developed by hospitals such as mine are immediately available as generic because we made our money from research grants that developed it and will give the formula away for free
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:22 PM - Statboy: I should amend that the process for making the drug is immediately made available for free, so that once the drug clears the FDA its immediately for sale by any company that wants to make. This is how generic drugs are profitable
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:23 PM - VintagePC: Not what I was looking for but relevant https://www.youtube.com/embed/YQZ2UeOTO3I
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - VaultBot: and character sheets
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - Statboy: that won't stop the treatment from being developed or hitting the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - VintagePC: no, but it relates to my comment about pharma being a giant stinking cesspool of shadiness
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:25 PM - VaultBot: which is she isn't eligible for financial aid because the government takes into account how much money her parents have.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:25 PM - VintagePC: like I said, I'm going to attempt to find what I read on generics, but not tonight, I'm going to bed now
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 PM - Statboy: FOUL ON THE PLAY "MOVING THE GOALPOSTS"
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:27 PM - VaultBot: don't have to be precise
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:27 PM - Statboy: you can't switch from "Big Pharma will Block it" to "Big Pharma is Evil" just because you lost the arguement
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:29 PM - Statboy: Big pharma can't and won't block it
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:10 AM - VaultBot: rgr, i upgraded roll20 to a phone it's a wonder you have matched interlaced source to interlaced output
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:10 AM - TimeCrush: Well, I'm ready
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:14 AM - Reechard: I'm about 3/4 done with my dude... kinda got Lava's base concept worked out.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 AM - TimeCrush: Your friend started?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:02 AM - Reechard: I'm trying to get him into roll20 so you can give him his character sheet, etc.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 AM - TimeCrush: I'm putting on finishing touches with music and sounds
Jul 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM - TimeCrush: Bring your big boy fighting pants
Jul 20, 2018 at 11:23 AM - TimeCrush: Apparently I like encounters
Jul 20, 2018 at 5:08 PM - VintagePC: you can send invites for me to listen in to my username @vaultf4.com
Jul 20, 2018 at 7:51 PM - Reechard: it's ok TC I predict we'll get through *maybe* one encounter total on Tuesday.
Jul 20, 2018 at 7:51 PM - Reechard: getting people who have never played acclimated is gonna be fun.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:09 PM - Statboy: do we know what the 5th person is doing?
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:09 PM - Statboy: we got Ranger/Paladin/Oracle/Wizard so far?
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:16 PM - Statboy: For anybody interested, the research part of the hospital I work for cured cancer in mice.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:16 PM - Statboy: http://www.wowt.com/content/news/UNMC-scientists-cure-cancer-in-mice-488322711.html
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - Reechard: ho damn that's awesome
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - VaultBot: hey guys- good chance i won't be able to do with #scan lines
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:24 PM - Reechard: I told the 5th to go fighty smacky, so probably either barbarian or fighter.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Statboy: looks like a good mix
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Reechard: yerp
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:38 PM - Reechard: I took enough non-healing stuff that I should be able to beat some ass a tiny bit too.
Jul 20, 2018 at 9:49 PM - VintagePC: sadly there will be little motivation from the pharma industry to make that common. Why cure someone if you can keep selling them drugs the rest of their lives?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:01 PM - Statboy: who says pharma has anything to say? doctors prescribe drugs not pharmaceutical companies. It's easier for docs to do what's best for the patient, because they have to look the patient in the eye
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:07 PM - VintagePC: they have high-priced lawyers, deep pockets for marketing, and sales reps that convince doctors to push their meds. The latter two of which are contributing factors in the current "opioid crisis"
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - VintagePC: so while they may not have much to say directly at the front... you can damn well bet they will "say" a lot more behind the scenes
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - VintagePC: Just look at the shit they pull to keep generics off the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:08 PM - Statboy: you cannot convince me that anybody would stand in the way of the cure for cancer, people aren't that evil
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:10 PM - Statboy: this isn't something they would have control of behind the scenes either. Also drug companies make money by curing people, not making them worse. You've been watching to much Hollywood
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM - VintagePC: no, they make money by continuing to sell people drugs, not by curing them
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:11 PM - VintagePC: pharma is a giant, stinking cesspool that only cares about their bottom line.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM - VintagePC: while not pharma, quick taste of a similar situation in the medical industry
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:12 PM - VintagePC:
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - Statboy: Pharmaceutical doesn't make money once a drugs is out long enough to have generic brands made. Usually 1-5 years. Pharma makes money by developing new drugs and charging %500 of what it cost to make
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - VintagePC: except they will pull shit to keep generics off the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:13 PM - Statboy: how?
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:14 PM - VintagePC: so in reality, their most profitable drugs will not see a generic for far longer than that
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:14 PM - Statboy: legally they can't, and historically they havn't\
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:15 PM - VintagePC: there are loopholes like changing the formulation slightly or selling it as a treatment for a different condition that have essentially the same effect as extending their patent exclusivity
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - Statboy: alright, have you seen this happen even once? In the last 17 years that I've been healthcare I haven't
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - Statboy: changing the formula wouldn't alter the timeline of the original going to generic either
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:16 PM - VintagePC: I will attempt to find my source on that again
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM - Statboy: I've seen making minor improvements to keep the name brand more effective in order to drive prices up
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:17 PM - Statboy: but none of this has ever prevented a drug from going to market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:19 PM - Statboy: which is the key, so long as the drug hits the market it'll be available. Also drugs and treatments developed by hospitals such as mine are immediately available as generic because we made our money from research grants that developed it and will give the formula away for free
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:22 PM - Statboy: I should amend that the process for making the drug is immediately made available for free, so that once the drug clears the FDA its immediately for sale by any company that wants to make. This is how generic drugs are profitable
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:23 PM - VintagePC: Not what I was looking for but relevant https://www.youtube.com/embed/YQZ2UeOTO3I
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - VaultBot: and character sheets
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - Statboy: that won't stop the treatment from being developed or hitting the market
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:24 PM - VintagePC: no, but it relates to my comment about pharma being a giant stinking cesspool of shadiness
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:25 PM - VaultBot: which is she isn't eligible for financial aid because the government takes into account how much money her parents have.
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:25 PM - VintagePC: like I said, I'm going to attempt to find what I read on generics, but not tonight, I'm going to bed now
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:26 PM - Statboy: FOUL ON THE PLAY "MOVING THE GOALPOSTS"
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:27 PM - VaultBot: don't have to be precise
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:27 PM - Statboy: you can't switch from "Big Pharma will Block it" to "Big Pharma is Evil" just because you lost the arguement
Jul 20, 2018 at 10:29 PM - Statboy: Big pharma can't and won't block it